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Last Updated: 09/19/2010

Dear Larry. . .

Just read that today mark a big anniversary.  In '89 I moved to Rhode Island and for a while I kept up my subscription to the Greenfield Times.  The U S Postal System would deliver several on some days and none on others.  In this technological age, I enjoy this site and that of the Press Gazette.  Usually I check in every day.

I really get mad when you go on vacation or when the site doesn't get updated for a few days (there's got to be some small town news that I am missing out on).

Anyway. . . thanks for your efforts to keep us transplanted Greenfielders updated.  I really appreciate your efforts.


John R. Daniels, 7/29/2007

This is truly a great site and I am delighted to have found it.  I was born in Greenfield and lived in Greenfield, East Monroe and Leesburg over the years.  I think a couple of people mentioned Daniel's and man did that ever touch a cord with me.  I spent many an hour in that old pool room.  My dad usually looked for a game on the front tables and I learned to play the game on the back table standing on a pop case. 

He would buy a couple of cigars (White Owls, you can smell the feathers) and spring for a cherry coke and a little box of pretzels for me.  Man, as a kid I would sit back and take it all in.  I can still remember Ernie in that ever present gray sweater racking em up for 10 cents a game.  Pearl would usually man the front counters wearing a tie with a stick pin that was rumored to have been a real diamond.  God only knows how long that old pool room had been there but long enough that there was a hollow behind the front screen door pull from all those fingers just itching to get in.  And I gotta agree with what someone else wrote about that “toilet”, it was the most foul unit I have ever seen in my life – you just don’t forget about something like that, it stays with you.

I laugh sometimes when you hear all the racket about second-hand smoke, why on a Saturday night at Daniel's you could hardly see the tables it was so thick.  And those spittoons, a lot a people chewed in those days and you had better watch you step or you’d be slipping and sliding like you were on ice.

When I got into my teens it was a pit stop we would usually make before we moved on to bigger and we hoped better things.  Yes, I remember Penny’s, the Ranch Drive-In, the Diamond Grill, Gossett’s, Ross’s Auction, on and on but Daniel’s will always hold a special place in my heart. 

Bill Stout, 3/22/2007

WOW! What a great website! (  My mother is from Greenfield, and I saw glasses from my Granddad's office on your website! So, here is a little story:
Dr. Albert Borreson was my grandfather on my mother's side, and he and his family lived in the house where his office was. When he and grandmother passed, my cousin Cindy bought the house, and she lives there with her family today!
Everyone who was friends with him referred to him as "Beeb"-- somehow short for Albert.
When I was about 9 or 10 years old, and granddad was getting on in years, I started to need glasses. So, next time we went to visit, Granddad refracted me in his office. Although he was a General Practitioner, not an Optometrist, he did all these different procedures routinely; because he was a "country doctor", he did a bit of everything.
Anyways, it was probably because I was so honored at having so much attention from Grandpa, in his office, and so excited about having glasses, that when I was getting refracted, I think I said "yes" every time he asked "is this better"!
So, when I got my glasses, they were veritable binoculars! I could count the needles on top of a pine tree 100 yards away! I thought that was fantastic, and boy-- had I been missing something! I wondered if everyone had such great vision!
Eventually though, I learned I had been wa-a-a-a-a-ay "over-refracted" and that prescription was too strong for me. The good news was that, somehow that original prescription helped my eyes, and after a year or two of wearing those glasses then-- I didn't have to wear them anymore! My eyes were just fine!! Until now that is. I finally needed glasses again, and just got my second pair, almost thirty years later.  Now THAT was a lasting gift, even if it was an accident! Thanks Grandpa! 

Hadley Panzer, 11/13/2006


It's hard to believe that my water bill is more than I paid for my first car, my class ring, senior pictures and a months worth of groceries. What corner do I look around to find prosperity? It sure isn't on the corner of Jefferson and Washington. It looks like we may have to revert back to shared bathwater and outhouses.

John Countryman  10/4/2006

Is there anyway possible you can get a picture of the dam where the old mill once stood. As a kid I would walk with my aunt “Vergy’s” from my home and grandparent's home on North Street (I lived at 111 North St. then) to her home that still stands on a hill across from where the mill once stood. Wonder if you can still walk the tracks now from the old mill site back to North Street? Any help would be appreciated. Have a great day!

Danny Alexander  9/29/06

Read your note on Detty's. They always sponsored the various teams in town (most recently a soccer team [Greenfield youth soccer assoc]) gave a lot of breaks to food for the team food booths, and employed my 18 year son Kenneth. Ken is getting the ax as they will now layoff most of their employees.

The soccer games are held every Saturday at Sims across from the driving range - yours truly - Uncle John's Friendly Cafe and Bistro - cooks dogs, brats and some awesome pork tenderloin all day - this weekend due to weather last week will be Saturday and Sunday (9 to 4 Saturday most likely noon to 6 on Sunday - you will be amazed at the amount if kids in this program - over 300 kids running their tails off on Saturday rather than watching cartoons and chatting on the net)

Anyway as I ramble.

I think this was a sad day for Greenfield - another local store disappears - as I fear will be the community support they provided. It is getting very hard to shop in Greenfield these days.

Remember the day:

Elliot's Marina at Washington and Lyndon

Pad and Textile Factory

Shoe Factory

New Car Dealers

Clothing Stores - Bays, United and others


Bobs Super Value (how many of us worked there - a bunch)

Flynns Meat Market

Collins Packing

Gas Stations that pumped your gas (I worked at Certified)

3 or 4 actual flower shops

(I guess the born on date on my drivers license has caught up with me)

Left are Greenfield Research (inside info suggests layoff of in excess of 100 jobs ASAP due to movement of one of their products to central America by JCI) - and most likely the end of them?? Hope not

Johnson Controls - loss of in excess of 175 jobs in the last 8 years.

The rumors about Banta - may be true

What we picked up:


KFC - Taco Bell

The other bad fast food place (and about 25% on the body mass - fat - of most of our children) Notice how big - fat - the kids in town have become

Curves - so the women who eat at above can work it off.

The terrible sub place - ate at one once and contracted Salmonella - verified and spent 4 days in a hospital in Tennessee.

Time to get some Democrats back in office. As if that will make a difference?

John Shonkwiler 9/28/06

Shrock's "Sungoat" Goes Hollywood

NOTE: I received this input from 1960s McClain grad Terry Shrock who has resided for many years in San Diego, CA. I believe someone once told me that this is the same GTO Terry bought new back in 1969 and has owned ever since.


A little over a year ago I signed up with a company, "Film My Ride Picture Cars" at  The owner, Charles Stankovich, who is also involved with the upcoming Main Street America Show at SeaPort Village, came to one of our SDPOCI meetings and I provided him with some pictures and biographical information on my "69 GTO Convertible. This service provides movie producers and/or photographers with photos of various cars that they can browse through when in the market for a vehicle to shoot as a prop, etc.  In early June I got a call from Charles stating that a movie production company from Los Angeles was shooting a Longs Drugs Store TV commercial in San Diego and they wanted to use my car on June 16.  The commercial was being shot over a four day period starting at a  Longs Drug Store on Towne Center Drive, Bob McEvoy Field, various San Diego neighborhood streets and, on Friday, June 16th, at "The Abbey" on Fifth Avenue in San Diego near Balboa Park.  "The Abbey" was originally an Episcopal Church and is currently used for meetings, dinners, wedding receptions, dances and photo shoots through the San Diego Film Commission. I was asked to bring my car to "The Abbey" on Friday morning at 11:00 am.  The story line of my portion of the commercial involved two young couples arriving at "The Abbey" to attend a formal dance-Prom.  My car was to remain stationary, the action picking up with the prom boy, Johnny, in a tuxedo standing at my antenna, walking over to the passenger door, opening it and assisting the prom girl, Christina, in a formal gown, out of the passenger seat and then both walking rapidly to the steps of "The Abbey" and on up the stairs to join another couple entering the dance.  On the 16th I got an e-mail that the production crew was running a little late, asking me to arrive about 12:30 pm.  Since I was driving from San Marcos on a Friday I was concerned about getting stuck in traffic, especially around the Del Mar Fair area.  I left a little early, had light traffic and arrived around 11:30.  The only people there at that time were Christina, the Prom Girl, who had traveled from Antelope Valley with her parents.  She is a high school senior who has appeared in numerous commercials and as a model.  She is planning on attending college in the fall and wants to become a news broadcaster.  While she hasn't become rich acting she has earned herself a new car, albeit a Mustang. My first contact with an actual crew member was with a fellow named Nigel, the Prop Master from the Art Department.  He speaks with a heavy British accent and definitely fits the bill if I were casting someone for that role in a movie.  Nigel informed me that the crew of about 40 people was over at Balboa Park having lunch and I was invited to join them for a salad, bar-b-que ribs, chicken and prime rib.  It was at about that time that the Executive Producer of the commercial, Kent Feuerring, drove up, introduced himself and we spent the next ten minutes looking at and talking about the SUNGOAT.  He is a Harvard and Univ. of Miami educated, award winning producer who worked on the film Glengary Glenross.  He is also a pilot for the Coast Guard Auxiliary and very personable.  Lunch ended about 1:00 pm and the crew started to assemble, setting up props, sun shades and a type of railing for the mobile camera set up they were using. It was about that time that what had been chaos a few minutes earlier all came together.  The producer of the commercial, John Alper, arrived on the set.  He works for Avion Films and has also won numerous awards, starting out as a cameraman filming the Lake Placid Olympics, working for Sony and The Solomon Ski Company.  He is the quintessential Hollywood producer with at least 30 people hanging on his every word and jumping to his commands.  The filming itself lasted until 5:30 and then it was "a wrap", everyone packed up and left.  The producer, director and several executive assistants did gather around the SUNGOAT for a few final pictures and I hope to get copies of those shots.  The commercial is scheduled to begin airing in late August, just before school starts and I'm looking forward to getting my copy of the DVD that is being made.  All in all, I spent a very nice afternoon in San Diego, enjoying the great weather, lounging around in the shade and letting the SUNGOAT do all the work.  Terry Shrock  8/31/2006

I would like assistance identifying a dresser that has been passed down through my family.

I was born in Greenfield, Ohio where my Grandmother purchased the dresser at a garage sale probably between 1920 and 1950. I date the dresser to around 1800 to 1820 by review of the book, Ohio Furniture Makers by Hageman. It has hand cut dovetails and used cut nails. In an early repair cut nails were also used.

On the back of the mirror is what appears to be part of a wooden shipping box reused as a mirror backing. It clearly says Greenfield, Ohio even though part of the words have been cut away in making the mirror backing. Above that is clearly "as. Murr", and by the shape of the remaining letter parts I surmise it says Jas. Murray, or Jas. Murry.

The dresser is three drawer with three additional small drawers across the top. the center top drawer is only half depth and has a marble table-top in front. All drawers have locks and are trimmed in hand carved walnut molding, and a hand carver flourish over the lock. There is a lot of walnut trim and I think the thick  veneer  covering the dresser is also walnut. The pull knobs are turned walnut and are affixed with 1/2
inch dow. The secondary wood is poplar, and drawer bottoms are pine. (which appears to be from the same wooden shipping box as the mirror back.) The base is scalloped and legs are set on ceramic casters. The mirror mounts on a donut of walnut affixed to the dresser top so that it will swivel. The entire mirror frame and mounting bracket is hand carved from solid walnut.  (The mounting bracket allows the mirror to also tilt.)

Any help or instruction would be greatly appreciated.

Best Regards

R. Michael Bell
Senior Instrument Engineer
Hydro-Chem Division
Linde BOC Process Plants LLC
125 Hickory Springs Industrial Drive
Canton, Georgia  30115
Phone 1-770-345-2222 x275
Fax  1-770-345-2821 7/5/06
I was born in Greenfield as my brother ,sister and mother. My mothers family had a grocery store and packing plant which was turned into an apartment building. It was Wolfe's grocery my Grandfather Charles Wolfe was also the President of the building and loan. Was the Wolfe Grocery in your pictures. 

Charles Jackson 2/6/06

I was wondering if you knew the story behind all the local barns that have the Quilt Blocks painted on them. Most of the ones I have seen are on Cope Rd, and I've seen a few on St Rt 138. No one seems to know why they are painting these Quilt Blocks on barns. I though since you write alot of interesting stories (Like the one about my parents Manatee Mailbox) you may know the story behind the Quilt Blocks.

Knedler, Shylah  1/21/06

Response: The barn quilts are part of a project being carried out by the Greenfield Historical Society. If you go to their website and dig around a little you'll find lots more information along with more locations and photos. The site's address is...

I loved your website. I am wondering if Clyde Beatty has a family tree online somewhere.  I am told that my great grandfather Stanley Beatty was either his 1st or 2nd cousin.  If I can view a family tree of Clyde and accept or refute this theory, it would help tremendously in my research.
Thanks in advance for your reply,
Nicole DiGennaro

If you go to this web page, select Highland county it has some interesting snippets about Ghost’s in Highland county. The Fallsville legend sounds neat as does the McClain one. I don’t recall having heard either of them growing up. Any input would be cool….  

-Joey Smith

McClain grad, Terry Shrock, who is a lawyer living in San Diego, sent me this photo of him tooling down the strip in, "his ride." Need more photos Terry!

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Hi- I just  read your review of our book  North From The Mountains  and wanted to thank you for your kind words. I do apologize for those parts you referenced as being  "Dry as the Sahara" but a significant portion of our intent was to produce a product which would be of interest to the serious scholar as well as (hopefully) a more generalized section of the public.  You might be interested to learn than the book actually started out as a paper for presentation at the Kentucky Academy of Science with later publication in an appropriate journal. However, we kept finding things to include and it consequently metastasized into the book you reviewed. Anyway it was a lot of fun recalling my life as a young'un in the Carmel-Sinking Spring area and I sincerely hope that Don Ball and I have helped to document a time and place that today is more hearsay than actual history.
John Kessler, 8/24/05


I Live in Atco village in Cartersville, GA. I really enjoyed you article with some of the history of Goodyear and the village.  Also the pics. Thanks, I have been trying to fine the history of Goodyear.  I can find very little.  I would loved to have seen it in it prime, I bet it was a beautiful place.  Thanks again.

Connie Flora, 8/3/05

Thank you for posting the story of our Van Zandt ancestor. 
Glenda Van Zandt Stroud
Houston, TX


I just HAD to respond to your and Ron Coffey’s diatribe on pizza. God Bless the Italians???? My wife and I visited Italy several years ago, and they had NOTHING on our own hometown Gary ’s Pizza. They had the BEST sauce. Not sure if the recipe is still around, but if it is, it’s being kept a deep secret. Gary ’s was THE place for pizza back in the 70’s. It was a sad day when they closed. 

Pat Hays 5/26/05

I enjoyed reading your thoughts on pizza and am glad to have helped stimulate some memories for you through my column.
Strange as it may seem, I have never tasted a pizza from Jerry's. Probably the best pizza I ever had was during a vacation to Italy in 2001 covered with fresh Italian olives. I think we were in the town of Siena at the time. Maybe I was just hungry, but it really hit the spot! We tried the Pizza Margarita in Naples and I thought it was overrated, although the story behind it was interesting.
I agree there's no such thing as bad pizza. If my doctor ever tells me I can't eat pizza, I guess I'll have to find a new doctor!
Keep up the good work on your website. It's a great way of keeping Greenfielders all over the world connected with our wonderful community.
Best wishes,
Ron Coffey 5/24/05

Hey Larry

I listened to the song. He is telling it the way it is. I looked him up on the net and he was born in 1962 and his song is reminiscent of the songs that came out during the Haight-Ashbury, Woodstock era. From what I can gather from your website and your articles in the Times-Gazette, you are a Liberal. I guess that makes me an Ultra-Liberal, assuming of course, that I understood your one article about the Far Left verses the Far Right and the understanding that you were somewhere around the middle. In my 60 some years, I have witnessed a lot of wrongs done to the little guy and I, for one, will take every opportunity to stand on the side of that same, "Little Guy". Unfortunately, the song only addresses one aspect of the massive problems in this country. I can only assume you knew you were opening yourself up to being bombarded by e-mails regarding this one posting so I wouldn't want to let you down. Thanks from one very "Politically Incorrect" person. 

Dave Miley, 

NOTE: Let's hear from you folks! Send your comments to

This is Diane Rowe Gorman, again.  I wrote a request for information on the Rowe family and have had a distant relative contact me with great information on the Rowe family.  I am now asking if anyone has any information on my grandma Rowe's family, Her maiden name was McCoy, her first name was Bessie and she had a sister Gertrude "aunt Gertie" who lived in Greenfield, Ohio "in town".  My brother has found mention of a Neal McCoy, but is having making a connection.  If you can help us, please email me at
Thank you. 
Diane Rowe Gorman 5/3/05

My brother, David Rowe, and me, Diane Gorman are working on a family tree of the Rowe family.  There were also some McCoys and we are having trouble locating any information on them.  We have information back as far as Thomas Rowe, who was Frank J. Rowe's father.  Can anyone help us out with any more information on any of our ancestors?  Our dad, Earl Rowe died in 1993,and Delbert and Elmo have also passed on.  I would also like some information on Margaret Hamilton, like what was her Mother's name, etc.
Thank you.
Diane Rowe Gorman

To Whom it may Concern:
I was in Greenfield track back in the early '70s.  I graduated in '74.  I remember Donald Willman, class of '71, in the long jump.  I don't remember what his distance was, but I think he may have had that 22 ft. record beat.  I could be wrong but it seemed to me he was jumping 23 ft.  I remember  they had to lengthen the long jump pit because Donny was jumping over it. 
Kelvin Bryant, 3/29/05

Thank you for providing such a wonderful archive. For years we have been referring customers and history
inquiries to your site.
We would like to see the "NOTE" at the bottom of the article reflect the fact that The C. S. Bell Company very
much exists.  Our headquarters and manufacturing plant operate in Northwest Ohio since the company's  purchase in 1973-74.
While the bell segment of the product line was sold and moved to: 

    Prindle Station

    Attn: Peter Wilson
    22 Prindle Station Road/ P.O. Box 347
    Washougal, WA 98671
we continue to manufacture and market worldwide the Grist Mill,  Hammer Mill and Corn Sheller product lines as well as other equipment.  A full review can be seen on our website:


Perhaps a link to Prindle Station for those interested in bells and a link to C. S. Bell for those interested in the Grist Mill, Hammer Mill and Corn Sheller product line would be of benefit to your sites visitors?
Again, thank you for your interesting article.  If you have any questions please feel free to contact us toll-free at 888-958-6381.
Daniel P. White
VP, Market Operations

I have a history question for you. What year did people start smiling in photographs? All of the old pictures that I have seen nobody smiles. I guess those really weren't the good old days as I have been told. Thought I would give you something to think about. Really enjoy the web site
 John Countryman,  3/8/05





You know I am your number one fan and my family and friends were amazed that they saw me on the cruise with you. I have them looking at your site a lot because of the pictures you take and the information about what's going on. God bless.

Nola Hutchinson,  1/28/05

NOTE: Nola is usually the first to give me hell when I go fishing and abandon keeping the site updated. Hopefully, with wireless capability, that won't happen as much. Thanks Nola!

I love the pics you have taken of your trip to Key West and it was so great to see the first day of the alumni cruise pics! It means a lot to visit this site each day and be reminded of the great people of Greenfield and the best school ever!!! Please keep the good work and play and know all is appreciated especially by those who can't be there.
                                         Karen Beatty Gander, McClain Class of 1968, Peoria, Arizona, 1/27/05

NOTE: I've received several positive comments about attempting to keep the site updated while we were traveling. This is now possible because of wireless technology and the growing number of hotels, restaurants and other businesses that are making free wireless access available to their customers. Aboard ship, wireless was available but at a cost of $.75 per minute. If you have a notebook computer and a wireless card you may want to learn something about this technology. 

I am interested in finding any and all information on a Waddel W. W. Works wooden cash drawer. I am including photos for identification. Dimensions are 24"deep,91/2" tall, and 161/2" wide. I am also interested in obtaining a patient number and approximate value as I am interested in selling. I consider the item to be in good condition with some weather checking to the wood but in it's original state as far as I can tell. The center board on the top of the drawer is loose on one end. The finger lock mechanisms in the lower drawer are a nice addition to this piece. The patent plate on the back reads Waddel W. W. Works Greenfield, Ohio  Pat'D Nov.27' 1894.Any help you could give me would be truly appreciated. I would be happy to send additional photos upon request.
                      Sincerely, Julie Jensen, 1/27/05

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Dear Larry,
I was really pleased to find the story about the Never Fail.  Can't add much, except we had one growing up at our summer place in Vermont where we still don't have electricity, only kerosene lamps.  It, unfortunately, DID fail long ago (design flaw, actually -- if you're not careful, you can hook the spout under the bail of the handle and wrench the spout when lifting a full can.)  That's what happened to ours.)
I have found two in junk stores, neither of them work, but they did have enough of their labels intact that I could Google J. A. Harp Mfg. co.  (On one of them, the bottom is rusted out.  Do you know a tin smith who could build a new bottom?)
I hope I can find another one -- actually, I need two, one for the old house, and one for the new house my wife and I just build nearby -- also without electricity!
I'll check on e-bay, but if you have any leads I'd appreciate it.
Best regards,
Lars Peterson, 12/31/2004

I recently came across an older resident of Greenfield who has a old coin bank from Peoples National Bank of Greenfield. It is a silver dime shaped bank that has a picture of John F. Kennedy on it with the dates and some writing on the back of the bank. Any ideas on this or have you seen any like it? Thank you.

Michelle Prater,  12/06/2004

I wanted to let you know that I have found one of these cans in McConnellsburg, Pa. I am from Mercersburg, Pa. The can that I found is in really nice condition and in great working order. Of the photos you have it is the first one, but in the 5 gallon size. There are no dents or holes. The label is about 85% there. I am currently getting ready to put this on Ebay. It was great reading about the history of this can. Thanks.

Teresa Shover, 7/26/2004


I recently visited your beautiful town and found my great-grandmother's parents graves: Robert Henry Miller and Cynthia Shoemaker Miller.  Any information would be greatly appreciated. 

Emily Giesel, 7/15/04

E. L. McClain was indeed a great man, however the quote on the historical society mugs, "Where there is no vision, the people perish" is from the Bible, Proverbs 29, v. 18.  Maybe we should allow it to be attributed to E. L. so someone won't start a movement to have the quote in the school painted over! 

Sally Kennedy, 7/13, 2004

You left out a movie from the list; some remarkable footage of Clyde appears in JUNGLE WOMAN, a Universal Picture, 1944, with Acquanetta.  
John Gilmore

Hey Mr. Chapman! 

Carolina bbq now that's what I like to hear about. Living in Raleigh, NC, there are plenty of bbq places no matter which direction you head. Now I haven't really had the opportunity to explore these fine dining establishments as I would like (wife and son don't enjoy it as much), but when family and guests come on down to visit and want a worthwhile experience of NC bbq, I take them to my favorite spot. Allen & Sons is the place for me located between Chapel Hill and Durham. This is an American classic that has been written up in many magazine articles. It is a small cinder block building in a rural setting that may remind you of Greenfield and southern Ohio. They specialize in eastern NC bbq which is a vinegar-base bbq as opposed to more of the red gravy tomato-base meal you would find in the western part of the state toward Tennessee. I always go for the bbq platter which is a hearty helping of chunky mouth-watering NC pork. The hush puppies are fantastic. The fries are homemade like you would find at the county fair. They have several other great items to choose from on the menu, but you have to wash them down with their sweet tea. To finish the meal, you must order some dessert. The items are all homemade (fruit cobblers, pies, and cakes) including the ice cream. The folks that frequent this place are from every walk of life- business folk, college students, farmers, and truck drivers. If you head toward Raleigh from Ohio along I-40, you exit the interstate at #266. Turn left and drive along, I believe, HWY 86 for a couple of miles. Just before you reach the train tracks, the building will be on your left hand side. Enjoy!!

Bret Bergstrom

Raleigh, NC  4/3/04

Editor's Note: I'm printing out 2 copies of the directions and putting one in each of my vehicles. Rest assured I'll schedule a visit on my next trip to the Carolina coast. Thanks Bret.

The next time your in Goldsboro drive another couple hundred yards and try McCall’s BBQ. It is just as good. For a little while they had a second place in Mt Olive that was actually a little better but a lot smaller and they shut it down and just kept their bigger place.

Don Watts 3/29/04

Editor's Note: I've eaten at McCall's in both Goldsboro and Morehead City. It is good but it's a buffet and I normally don't prefer steam table food. Fried shrimp and hush puppies just don't do well on a steam table. I prefer mine piping hot and crispy and that's what Wilber's has just across the street. Thanks for the input.

Editor's PS: Don and I exchanged several emails discussing Carolina BBQ and we have some common experiences. He mentioned two in Scranton, SC that I'm familiar with; Country Cousin's and School House BBQ. He also mentioned a chain called Smithfield BBQ and Seafood which is based in North Carolina. As he said, "It's fast food BBQ but okay in a pinch." I agree about Smithfield. 

I just read the sea story thing and didn't know about the USS Ward being sunk three years later...which reminds me of a ship I was on...the USS Harwood DD/DDE 861 @ Newport, R.I. She was retired in the mid seventies (if memory serves me correctly) and transferred/sold to the Turkish Navy and a while later they were having a skirmish with someone in the Mediterranean Sea and a Turkish plane (their own) bombed and sunk it. Not a fitting end for my old floating gun platform. Also, if you can find it on the web, the ship that Richard Barton (Greenfield schoolmate) was on...the USS Hazelwood DD 531, took a hit by a Kamikaze (can't spell it to look correct so I'll say divine wind plane) and there was a picture down on the mess decks of her listing to starboard a bunch and the pilot house pretty well gone along with all officers but the engineering officer...he was down in the engine room at time of impact...and a Chief Radioman brought her into Pearl (I think) for repairs. The Hazelwood (and Richard) were home ported in Newport, R.I. at the same time I was stationed there and when we went out on daily operations, the skipper of the Hazelwood would always pick a greenhorn commander of one of the other destroyers and challenge him to a race back into port. I think someone told me that she was a 2100 class "tin can" that would do about 38 knots. Something that the later modern tin cans couldn't touch. He probably won a few beers with her. Fred

Fred Martin, 3/20/04

Editor's Note: Both Fred Martin and Richard Barton were stationed in Newport, RI at the same time I was. I served on the USS Mills DER-383 and the USS Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr. DD-850. On occasion we would bump into each other ashore, but our ships never sailed together that I'm aware of. The Mills was salvaged for scrap in the 70's and the Kennedy is still afloat as part of a naval museum in Massachusetts. 

Hi all...this really doesn't fall under the heading of feedback....I was wondering if there's any efforts being made to put together a 25 year re-union for the 1979 graduating class? 

Dale Kennedy, 3/18/04

Larry, just thought I’d let you know about the “Century Team” for the University of Dayton . Bill Uhl did make the team, thanks in part to the votes from your readers. The Dayton Daily News then had a tournament, pitting various teams throughout the last 100 years. In a bit of irony, Bill’s team from the 50’s played a team from the 80’s, which included Bill son, Bill, Jr. Bill Jr.’s team beat his fathers team, and went on to the championship game, playing the Century Team. The Century Team won that game, with Bill Sr. scoring 26 points to Bill Jr.’s 6 points. All of these games were played by inputting all the stats from the years into a computer, and the computer calculating the eventual winner.
Pat Hays, WVNU 3/17/04

My father, Peter J. Weiss, was a member of "G" company. He was a recipient of the Silver Star while serving in France. He was native to Cleveland and passed away in 1972 at age 77. He played for Doc Wilce and Ohio State's first Rose Bowl team in 1920. A small old news clipping I have says, "Three more Cleveland Yanks have been cited for such bravery as their commanders announced would 'stand as examples' to their comrades. He spoke often about Greenfield as the home of the 42nd.
Bill Weiss  3/13/04

We published a full-length article on Clyde Beatty in the July-August 2002 issue of Timeline, the Ohio Historical Society's popular-history magazine. The article also features numerous illustrations. For more information, contact  or visit the OHS Website:
Christopher S. Duckworth, 2/28/04

Hi Larry....

Great article ... just sitting here at Southwest Airlines, Hanger A, waiting for N319SW to ready itself and take on passengers after it's Quarter D check. Decided to kill a few minutes and check up on Greenfield and accidentally navigated into your columns.. have no idea why I chose marbles, was I subconsciously thinking of those bygone days on the black top and gravel behind the Presbyterian Church... no idea, but I very much enjoyed the article.. as best I can recall you pretty much touched all the rules and those made up.. it was GREAT fun... so sorry children do not enjoy those simple pleasures today, and the outdoors... 


Dean Waddell, Dallas, TX, Class 67', 2/28/04

Hi Larry, thanks for the memories... 

I was especially sad to read of Billy Kerr's passing.  However the stories about your youth and the Kerr's side yard did bring back some great thoughts. (I have been reading your columns) While I didn't run into that gang until the fifth grade and the Boy Scouts I remember your inventiveness in making the weapons and grenades you wrote about.   

The very mention of Pete's store, Ed Grate's, Pearl's cigar ( I couldn't place Jack the pool player) really lit my fire.  I haven't spent so much time on this machine in several years.  I can't wait to read the rest.  I didn't know about the UFO though.  Picture that.  However I do remember the house on Paint creek, to my never-ending shame.  I still cannot figure put what we thought we were doing. 

Like I said, Thanks for the memories... 

I also think you are right about cleaning up the town, underneath it is a very beautiful place.   

We will see you this summer I hope. 

Charlie Moore,  2/20/2004 

Remember when someone made a good shot at the pool hall and "Shotgun" would clap and say, "That was a good shot?" His name was William Southerland, as I recall. 

Remember when old man Bush (I think his name was) came in on his noon hour and played nine ball with the boys? He had the shoe repair shop on the corner of the alley behind Rexall. He wore coke bottle glasses and I always wondered how he even seen the balls...but he was good! 

Remember Larry's favorite player...(Jack Mills) wearing a bow tie made from a hundred dollar bill? (Probably the first one I'd seen) Jack was a classy dude...the way he dressed, the way he acted...even the way he held his stick when shooting pool. His brother came to town once upon a time and I was at Penny's Restaurant getting ready to get on the skating bus and someone informed me that it had already left...and Jack's brother and Jack said they were going down and I could ride with them. GREAT! They had an old 50 Ford and they had me begging to slow down going down old 41 to Bainbridge. I got on the floor board in the back seat. I guess that was payback for beating Jack at the pool table as my practice was free and I was getting "pretty good." 

Remember George Montgomery (Eddie's grandfather) who was also a regular in one of the big oak chairs and had the Lucky Strike brown on his index and middle fingers from smoking so much? Eddie would come in and borrow a quarter from him now and then. 

Remember Saturday night when it was hard to even get a table?...and there was always a nine ball game on the first table...and they played for sometimes five or ten dollars a game! And the place was never raided or criticized for it...maybe that’s how it is when your brother is a senator, huh? 

Remember when Ja-Rod Pavey shot the arrow from the front door at the IOOF lettering atop the building across the street from the pool hall? It stayed there for years...the painters just painted around it. The fletchings gave way after a year or so. I haven't looked for it still there? 45 years...I'd think not. 

Remember when the coin collecting craze hit us and we would talk about it at the pool hall and Ernie would get in the safe and get out that string of gold coins all cellophaned together in a row and go (I can't write how his laugh sounded)...but you can hear it in your mind can't you? 

Well, “Remember when” is over for now...go's your shot!

 Fred Martin, 2/20/2004 

Hi Larry. 

I read your web site frequently.  Thanks for providing an opportunity to keep up on the home town.

Jeff Van Dyke, 2/20/04

    I have been on this site quite a few times and I must say it is a real nice site. I wish Hillsboro had something like this. I have checked out your archives and I love what I see there. I went to both Petersburg & Greenfield schools back in the 60's and I was wondering if you or someone you knew might have some pictures of those schools back then & maybe some of the teachers that taught there. I come to Greenfield often and lots of times I come back through past Petersburg school just to look at it and remember the good times I had there as a child.  Since I have found this site, I have saw & read about some things that I remember as a child and it brings back a lot of good memories for me.
Thanks for having a great site like this one.
Ernie Nichols,  2/20/04

It was either 1947 or 1948. I was working at a radio station in Billings, MT (my first job out of college) when the Clyde Beatty-Cole Bros. Circus came to town. Since we were the local radio station most visiting organizations came to the station for a publicity interview. Since I was the announcer on duty that day the chore fell on me to conduct the interview. Well, knowing of Clyde Beatty and being from Greenfield I jumped at the chance. I met Clyde in the studio about 15 minutes before we were to go on the air just to get acquainted with one another. And I asked him where he was from and he told me he was from Chillicothe, Ohio. I looked at him and said that I thought he was from Bainbridge and got a very startled reaction from him. I then told him I was from Greenfield and we had a great interview then and there. We discovered we mutually knew several families in the Bainbridge-Greenfield area and I also told him that we were probably very distant cousins. My Great-Grandmother (Maria Beatty McCann) was from Bainbridge also. This episode is one of the many highlights in my radio and television career and one I had cherished throughout the years. Thanks for the article on Clyde Beatty.  Robert McCann Zeeck 2/13/04

Clyde Beatty is the son of Margaret Beatty Tong, late of Bainbridge, Ohio. My grandfather Charles Beatty Sr. was a brother to Margaret. I spent many a time looking at pics of Clyde taken with his famous cats at my Dad's Uncle Frank's house, Frank is Margaret & Charles brother. Margaret was very secretive over who Clyde's father was. Those in family who knew would never reveal his identity. I was always proud to tell people that Clyde Beatty was my cousin. I have been in correspondence with Mr. Smith who was his assistant, who stated he was one of the finest men he ever the privilege of knowing. I do remember meeting Clyde one time when I was a young girl growing up in Greenfield., when he visited his Uncle Frank & Aunt Velma Beatty who resided on Milburn St. If in my research of the Beatty family I turn up any more info on Clyde Beatty I will gladly share it. Thanks.                                                                                            

Karen Beatty Gander  2/13/04


I loved your Greenfield site. I have a Sun box coffee grinder, but it is a No. 1087, not a 1080, and I can't find any information on it. Have you ever seen the 1087? It has a nice, patterned cast-iron lid opening. I got it in West Virginia in 1969 for 25 cents! Do you know how long Sun stayed in business?


Cindy in San Diego 2/12/04

Editor's Note: Can anyone help Cindy out?


Enjoyed your Greenfield article about the "30's. I have fond memories of the Greenfield Grain and Hay as a great place to buy so many different items for farm and rural use. I also seem to recall a blacksmith shop in the alley off midway. Can’t remember the smithy's name but he turned out impressive horse shoes in a flurry of sparks and could repair a broken wagon wheel in no time at all. I recall that he straightened a bent radius rod for a model "t" Ford that Leslie Patton and John A. Smith wrecked when they hit the front porch of our house on Juvenile St. Do you remember when Dr. Skeen came to Greenfield? I think one of my favorite businesses was the Greenfield Power Plant with all those whirring generators tended by Mr. Yankee and his fellow engineers. Thanks for the memories Bill. Still recall those black Packards at the Walker Funeral home.

John Roberts [] 2/10/2004

I just read your road trip report. I am soooo jealous! One of these days I hope to have the freedom to roam the country in search of good barbecue and/or pina coladas.
Too bad the barbecue wasn't up to your standards, but I enjoyed the detailed report and the photos.
Best wishes,
Ron Coffey 2/10/2004


My friend, Carlene (Garman) Merz is a MHS Class of 1933 graduate. She would like friends, old classmates, etc. to contact her if possible. Her address is 1344 Norfolk Circle, Indianapolis, IN 46224. And, where can I find more information about the reunion? Is it for all alumni? Thank you.

Debra Wells, 11/10/03


I just happened on your site after receiving the MHS Homecoming card and searching the Greenfield website.  I am currently residing in San Marcos, California, northern San Diego County, just close enough to the Pacific Ocean to avoid the recent fires, even though the smoke was really bad for several days.  I am entering my 15th year as a Deputy Public Defender for San Diego County.  Doesn't seem possible that I left Ohio 30 years ago.  I still have my 1969 GTO Convertible that I bought new while living in Dayton.  I remember giving Dane Clyburn a "look at my new car" ride around Greenfield.  I currently use it for car shows and parades and belong to a local Pontiac Club.  My first experience with speed was riding with Dane in a,I think, '52 Olds, out toward Rainsboro.  We got up to 120 mph.  Is he still that crazy?  I wonder if he remembers that?  Keep up the good work. 

 Terry Shrock  MHS '62 11/10/03


I don't know what the official name was but the Handley family had a quarry south of town. It was not in operation when I lived in town in the 50's and 60's. The remnants were there and old man Handley was rumored to run people off with a gun. JoAnn Handley was my neighbor and my sisters age, and we were invited to go swimming at the quarry in the summer

There was a small scale quarry behind Waddell's house where I, Phil Cameron, Lester VonBargen, and Dean Waddell played. There was another area along creek road where masons would get rocks for small projects. The Quarry north of town was Blue Rock and was an active quarry at the time I was growing up.

Bob Hodge, 11/10/03

NOTE: I believe the quarry you refer is the same as the Rucker quarry which is now owned by the City of Greenfield and leased to a local person.

Orebaugh's Grocery (corner of Lyndon and Fifth)was also owned by Everman's, Jim Everman was a year or so older than I and he had a sister older than him. Clyburn had a store at the railroad tracks on Sixth street in the 50's. There was as store in the house across from the school on Fifth in what was to become the funeral home. There was a store in Susan Allen's house at the corner of South and Fifth for awhile? 

Bob Hodge, 11/10/03


I really enjoyed the pic and article on the Royce stone house being restored. I have always been interested in all the old stone houses around southern Ohio and would have loved a book with pics of all of them and their histories. My question is where is the Royce house located? Unfortunately I live in Arizona and cannot go out looking. Growing up in Greenfield I always loved all the old houses and wished I could have toured them inside as well. 

By the way, I agree that Quik Stop has the best burgers! Whenever I get to come home to Greenfield,  my sister Nancy Beatty Lytle and I always go there a couple times for their great burgers! The staff is great too! 

Keep up the great work on this site! It is so enjoyable to be able to keep in touch with news from back home.

Karen Beatty Gander, (11/06/03)

NOTE: The Royse home is located on SR 138 west about 2 miles out of town towards Hillsboro.


I noticed the post card on the memorabilia page regarding trout. We should have trout all over the place. The reason we don't…carp. I had an environmental history class at OU and the prof. told us that in the 1880's (well sometime in the late 1800's) a wealthy philanthropist had trains criss-cross the country that had open cars filled with carp. Every time they crossed water men would throw carp in. He wanted a cheap and abundant food source for poor people. He had apparently traveled to China and seen people eating them (what he didn't realize was that they farm them and only feed them grain there) Carp stir up sediment and trout need clean well oxygenated water to thrive. Thus carp = no trout. Robert Morehead, Brad Calhoun and I used to paddle into the back side of Paint Creek on Trimmers farm and shoot them with 22's by the hundreds in the shallows. They're like cock roaches now though.

Joe Smith, 

NOTE: Thanks Joe. I did a little Internet research and though I wasn't able to confirm what your professor had to say, I did find out that carp were introduced into this country in the late 1800s and was, in fact, prized as a food fish. The U.S. Fish Commission began sending carp to Ohio applicants in 1879 and large numbers were were sent until 1896. Since then, carp have been stocked in Ohio waters uncountable times and are considered to be a trash fish by most sportsman. Ohio's record carp catch was a 50 pounder taken from Paint Creek in 1967. 

greenfield swinging bridge.jpg (34513 bytes)Larry.  There is currently a picture on the Greenfield site on eBay that seems to show quite an elaborate swinging bridge.  It is difficult to determine from this picture if the whole structure is a foot bridge or if it is incorporated into a railroad trestle of some type.  Does anyone know of the existence of this bridge?  It apparently goes back to the very early 1900's as the date on the picture is 1910. I've quizzed my mother about it's existence.  She thinks there was a bridge of some type in the south end of town but isn't sure. 
I've noticed you seem to relish "chasing" down early history. Maybe this will give you a challenge.  For people who are interested, as I am, in early Greenfield material from a distance (Kent Ohio), the eBay website offers some interesting memorabilia at times. I have added to my collection from this source. It is amazing to me how far away from Greenfield some of the items have gotten. I love your Greenfield site and visit it every day without fail. I know this would be difficult for you, but you've got to give up fishing, it costs us a weeks worth of news when you take your trips.   
Gary Harvey,   (10/24/03) Click photo to enlarge.
NOTE: I don't remember this bridge but it once connected the two parts of the Rucker Stone Quarry together. I don't know if it was a walking bridge or used by vehicles but I do remember seeing the remaining concrete abutments along the creek banks when I played in that area as a kid. Anyone have anything to offer? Email P.S. Man has to fish Gary, if only to escape the news!
ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK: Gary Harvey's swinging bridge was a people bridge over paint creek according to Aunt Allen (Boyer). There used to be some type of campgrounds/park there. The big bridge in the background is the main line of the B&O going from Greenfield to South Salem. The negative may be reversed and the train track running north and south could be the DT&I and therefore the swing bridge is really to the south of the B&O bridge. However, there used to be a spur line for coal trains on the Greenfield side of Paint Creek to the old Power Plant. Joe Chapman (10/24/03)

Yes, I have fond memories of DANIEL Brothers and spent many an hour doing much of the same things you mentioned.  One outstanding memory was of an old guy named George who used to sit by the hour on those throne room chairs spitting and periodically missing the cuspidor, whereupon Ernie, in his usual garrulous manner, would fume and curse, mumbling all the while as he headed for the nastiest bathroom this side of Nuevo Laredo, to grab the mop and pail full of nasty water, and swish the dark amber malodorous fluid, painting abstract masterpieces equivalent of Salvador Dali on the old creaky planks that sometimes groaned from his massive weight.  George also would entertain us kids with symphonic flatulence, all the while smirking and asking some young rube to pull his finger.  George never seemed to tire of this pastime and if no one took the bait he could let fly with the most onerous gaseous effusions, which Fred, the regular rack attendant would threaten to paint green if they drifted in his direction.  Those Wolf Brothers Rum Soaked Crook Cigars did me in one Saturday and I swore them off forever having turned five shades of green after accidentally swallowing some of the juice.  Ernie was a natural grump and yet good hearted in a way like an old Dutch Uncle.  I had seen him give some of those weak phosphates and cokes to guys like me who couldn't always scrape up the change to outright pay the whole 5, and later 10 cents they charged.  That place became my rite of passage into manhood and many of the habits, quirks, and idiosyncrasies I acquired there stood me in good stead later in the world of men who rarely shrank from a challenge or backed out of a fight!  The discipline and the art of pool taught many of us the value of the dollar and it also taught us that sometimes artifice and strategy can whup the daylights out of smart aleck.  I learned to love those two aging grandfatherly men and think about them on my rare drives by the store front, of what used to be; the most happening place I ever knew.  Once in the 70's on a swing through the old town, my stepson and I shot pool on the verdant felt and lovingly cared for old Brunswick slate tables that my Dad and I had played on so many years before.  Yes, I beat my stepson, just as my Dad surprised me with his skill, which he also acquired at DANIELS BROTHERS.  MY vision of heaven would be an endless pool hall with ERNIE and PEARL officiating and all of us from generations immemorial who ever played there sitting and shooting and taking turns racking on those original tables much like Field of Dreams where we are all reunited with loved ones and friends, fathers, and grandfathers, sons, uncles, nephews and cousins, playing and hearing the golden chords of celestial shining orbs as they caromed and banked around the lovingly tended, perfectly tight, felt topped tables once again in an eternal and delightful game.  Reunited in our love for the each other, the joy of watching perfectly shot games, and the fellowship where its a gentleman's right to be a gracious loser and a champion for the underdog, the new guy, the kid breaking in.  That is my hope for all of us someday to be reunited in a DANIELS that never ends.


Doc, (10/24/03)

Larry, thanks for the write-up on the new look at St. Benignus. It’s a project that’s been a long time coming, and we are very pleased with the progress. It will take quite some time to repair all of the brick joints after years of neglect. We’re not quite sure when it was first painted, but it was way before my time! 

And yes, the church was originally built for the Methodist denomination. Our church bought and dedicated the building in 1905. It’s interesting to note that E.L. McClain was involved in the sale for the Methodist’s, and even donated money to the St. Benignus congregation to facilitate the purchase. The original St. Benignus Church still stands on the property once occupied by Collins Packing Company. It’s been used for many years for storage. 

St. Benignus is also very happy to announce that Fr. Frank Klamet has been named pastor of St. Benignus, replacing Fr. Ron Cooper, who has been transferred to the newly-formed St. Angela Merici Parish. Fr. Klamet is also known as Dr. Klamet in Washington Court House. Fr./Dr. Klamet is a family practitioner/obstetrician at Fayette Family Practice. After a 9 year stint as a missionary in El Salvador, Fr. Frank went to medical school in Cleveland. He’s a very dynamic and energetic man who sometimes comes to church in his surgical scrubs, having just delivered a baby! 

Keep up the good work on your site.

Pat Hays, 

Hello Mr. Chapman:

I work downtown in the Arena District and there is a restaurant down here that regularly gives $2 bills and $1 coins as change. The first time I went in, I had to check my change 3 or 4 times. I also hadn't seen a $2 bill in quite some time. The restaurant is Ted's Montana Grill, owned by none other than Ted Turner. Maybe he's sitting on a mint of obscure currency! Hope all is well down "home".

Janet Strain Novotny, 

Dear Folks,

    Just a brief note to say how much I enjoyed your website. I found it quite by accident as I was doing a Google search researching "Tapatco." Do you know what the final year they operated was?

    My wife and I were raised in Xenia. Jim VanZant was a classmate of mine in vet school at OSU. We graduated in 1973. We had a great time during those years with Jim and Sue. I believe her Dad was associated with Greenfield Industries or something to that effect. He gave me a huge iron frying pan that was manufactured there. We used it for years for our Lake Erie fish fries. Quite nice folks. Haven't seen them for years. Perhaps we'll meet up at this year's 30th reunion.

    My brother-in-law and wife ( my wife's sister ) have a place and some acreage on Rapid Forge Road near Greenfield and Paint Creek.
    Years ago we used to travel from Xenia to Bainbridge to pick up fencing for the farm.
Small world!
    Again, thanks for the informative and well-done site.
Bob Sheard - Gallipolis,OH [


My name is Randy Stafford. Thank You for this wonderful site. My grandparents lived on cave road when I was a small child. My Grandfathers name was Ray Stafford. They were not very wealthy people by any means, they had a small home between the 7 caves and what looks like Dry cave on this site. Back in the 1960's and early 70's when I was a small child I would spend the summers with my grandparents and would have the run of the countryside, the caves, and fishing at Paint Creek. Crossing the covered bridge was an everyday occurrence. The location my grandparents lived in at that time was known as cave holler, There were three houses in a row on the east side of the road, my grandparents built and owned the north house, my uncle John built and lived in the second house which if I remember correctly sat on the edge of a rock ledge over the road. My uncle Jerry owned the third house which was closest to the Cave. There used to be a little shack that sat across the road directly beside the creek, we used to fish behind this home almost everyday. I used to think my grandparents were poor but I would give anything to have their lifestyle and the property they lived on back then. I have not been to Cave Holler since my grandmother moved in the early 70's, I live in Oklahoma today and miss this area very much. If you know of any other websites with information on the area or people I would appreciate the information. Thank You.

Randy Stafford, 

Well I have finally made it back from Iraq and currently enjoying the nice desert paradise of Kuwait. Well maybe not paradise, but at least I have access to a computer now. This was the first site I checked to see what has been happening in and around town. I have been deployed here since Jan 31st and hope to be back in Mississippi by mid August. I was actually on leave outside of Greenfield when I received a call late one evening that we were being recalled back to base in Mississippi, so I had a long 13 hour drive ahead of me. I will be transferring from Mississippi in Sept. and returning back to Washington State to finish up the last 3 years of my military career. I am currently purchasing 5 acres outside of town on which I plan to build my house when I retire. I am so glad that I will be returning to the place that I call home. I have not regretted one day of my service to our great country and the freedoms that we all take for granted sometimes. This site has kept me in touch where ever I go and I so much appreciate what you are doing to keep everyone up to date on local happenings. As a Life Member of the Greenfield VFW, I will have to look you up and buy you a ice cold beverage, as I do not know whether or not you consume the malted variety. Once again thank you and keep up the great work.

BU1(SCW) Daniel R. Jones, 

Hello Larry. Just a note to update my E-Mail address. It has changed to Thanks and keep up the good work. I read you every day. Bob Zeeck. 

This web site is a real morale booster. This is a great little community we live in. I think that I was fortunate to have been a McClain Tiger. 

Barb Sutherland, 

Mr. Chapman,
My nephew recently bought a church in Pennsylvania. The church came with a C.S. Bell bell.  While searching for info on Bell's bell, I came upon your website. Wonderful article, I learned all I know about C.S.'s bells. If you could steer me towards info on C.S.'s bell models, etc., it would be very helpful. Thank You. 

P. Farrand, 

A certain lady's son who lives in Arizona wasn't the only one who was waiting for the pics of the new library! This former hometown gal & McClain grad who also lives in Arizona was also happy to see our home finally get a much needed and beautiful facility! I am really looking forward to visiting home and touring our new library!
I thank you for making this site possible, as it sure feels good to log on everyday and keep up with events that happen in our hometown and see photos and articles of interest to us who can't be there anymore in the wonderful small town we grew up in. Thanks. 

Karen Beatty Gander, (5/15/03)

I recently inherited a coffee mill  made by the Waddell Company.  Could you tell me any history about the coffee box and its worth today? Thank you ever so much.
Barbara Lowry, (4/28/2003)


That was a great article about the operating levy.  If I were still a Greenfield resident I would certainly vote for it.  I actually remember when the last levy passed 36 years ago.  I was in kindergarten at the time.  But,
we were not in the Duncan McArthur building; we were in the basement of the Methodist church.  The school had actually cut kindergarten because of the shortage of funds!  My parents along with those of many of my classmates got together and organized a "tuition kindergarten" so that there would actually be a kindergarten for us.  I remember on Election Day when our teacher, Mrs. Snyder, told us that people were voting in the next room and that we should "sing pretty for them".  It obviously took a few years before I realized what she meant.  The levy passed, and we were back in the McArthur building for the second semester. 

Dave Zoldak
MHS 80,  (4/25/2003)

I like to look at stone quarries and lakes and bodies of water. so, could you clear up a mystery for me? I lived in Greenfield until 1993 and in all of that time the only stone quarry I thought we had was out on 41 North toward Washington, C.H.  then I was informed that we had ANOTHER one in the area...where is it located? I've been all over the town and the outskirts and I haven't seen one. it must be pretty well hidden? Jerry McDaniel,

I was writing to let you know how helpful this site is when you have moved out of state. It seems by the time I find out that someone has passed away it is too late to send flowers and with your obits it really helps.  I check up very often to see what is happening.  This makes it easier to keep up on current events and a lot more. Thanks for all you do! Mary Humphries 

Hello Larry and thanks for the old home town web page. I have made it a habit to visit you every morning. Just one question. I missed seeing the obits from time to time. For old Greenfielders like me I would like to be informed about the deaths of my contemporaries. I'm sure you dont know how it is but when you reach my age (born in ' 24) it is rather good to know who your fellow survivors are. Thanks again for a great page and it is certainly noticeable with the new server on line.  Bob Zeeck. (

This is a really great web site.  I found this when looking for the Wilknit Hosiery Company, Greenfield, Ohio, that my great grandfather worked for in the 1920's/30's.  I still have his business card.  I really like small towns because they keep their history together.  

Carol Rice Miskill, Independent Hill, Virginia

My grandfather was in the "Rainbow Division" in WWI. He was in Co. "L", 167 Inf. Alabama National Guard. He enlisted on 21 August 1916 and was discharged 26 April 1919. He was at Champagne-Marne, Aisne-Marne, St. Mihel, Meuse-Argone, Luneville, Baccarat, Esperance-Souaine, and Essey-Pannes. He was also in the Army Occupation of Germany. He was killed in a motor vehicle accident in 1951. Is there any book I can buy that gives a history of his company and regiment?

Herb Otwell, 


My name is Mark Stewart. My father, Ralph Stewart, had an uncle (he was my great uncle and I remember him well) whose name was Forrest Washburn. He was my dad's mother's brother. According to my records he was born on May 6, 1895 and died on May 6, 1971. I remember him well. My dad use to own a restaurant and I remember one time him offering me a piece of cheese to eat (it was limburger cheese)! He had a good laugh over that. I was probably 12 or 13 years old then. He used to call me "buckfart" for some reason. He is buried at the cemetery in Greenfield, Ohio.

Mark Stewart 


Just wanted to let you know how much I enjoyed your article on Dr. Smith. The first thing I do every morning when I get to work is to pull up your web site.  I usually am in a hurry and quickly scan anything new.  This morning I started to read this article and couldn't stop until I read the whole thing.  It is so fascinating to read about Greenfield's early citizens and especially when they are as successful as Dr. Smith.  It is unbelievable that he accomplished so much in 58 years - makes me feel awfully humble! Thanks for providing such interesting info. 



Well I have made it back from Guam and will be Homeported in Mississippi until time to deploy again in Feb' 03. I had a great time while I was there and I am proud to say that several of my fellow Seabee's (which
by the way have just celebrated our 60th anniversary) forward to Afghanistan in the war on terrorism. We also sent a detachment to Gitmo Cuba to work on the Camp X-Ray detention facility. I will be taking leave and coming home in June/July and cannot wait to see all the new happenings in and around town, it's been 2 long years since I was last home. This 4th of July will have an extra special meaning to me, as I, along with my family and friends will be celebrating the freedoms of this great country that so many of us have vowed to protect and will continue to do. Thanks once again for keeping me in touch with home and keep up the great work. 

BU1(SCW) Daniel R Jones

Larry, I just wanted to thank you for all the hard and ingenious work you do to provide this service to area residences. I do so enjoy Barrett's Mill, Woolen Mill, Cave Road History, Seven Caves and am very happy to help you in sharing with others too, so that they might know of the past and how it once was. I am also looking forward to sites on McCoppin's Mill and Rainsboro Fairgrounds.  I love history and this site. Thanks again for your hard work and dedication to this.  I visit almost daily to review updates and always find some of interest.  Paul Barrett 

Hi Larry,

Could you please change my e-mail address on the homecoming page? I had to change the address after I bought a new computer in order to receive the free year of internet service. Just switched the names around. It is now Thank you and once again want you to know that I love catching up on the news in Greenfield. You do a great job.

Ruth (Jackson) Papineau, McClain Class of 1960

I just perused your site for the first time. Sally told me there was a hideous picture there of a person alleged to be me. What a horrid sight! Anyway, did you ever think of doing a story on all the little neighborhood stores that used to be all over Greenfield? Remember Orebaugh's and Skeen's markets??? I think that at one time there must have been close to 10-12 such markets. Great nostalgia...I can still remember the smell of Mr. Skeen's market. Keep up the good work. We need some form of community info since we no longer have a local paper. 
Jeff Boyll, 

Thanks again for the page. Glad to see the old buildings in New Petersburg go, lot's of memory's in them, but they were an eye sore. Thanks to all the businesses that gave of their time and equipment. I get home every once in a while, but it's nice to bring the sight up and browse. Keep up the good work here. Love the marker in front of the high school. Can't wait to get home and see it. God bless from the bluegrass.

 Mike Grimsley 

Could someone help me locate information on Earl Morter. He died in August, 1970 in Greenfield. I'd like his obituary, children, death certificate, wife's name, etc. Jack Morter, 139 Nantucket Landing, Centerville, Ohio 45458-4208, 937-904-2796. Thank You

 Jack Morter, 

I entered the Greenfield School System in 1953. Our home phone number was 412-B! Imagine, we had three numbers AND a letter! I remember it well. We were also, part of a "party line." My Mother was very adept at "picking up" when the signal indicated the line was in use. She got a lot of entertainment and gossip that way. It, along with the radio soap operas, was her daily entertainment. If someone was "one the line" and you needed to call out, you had to ask them to give up the line. If you had a real emergency, they usually hung up. But, if you lied, they would know and the next time you tried to "get out" they let you know about it. If you did have an emergency, the party line spread the news faster than wild fire. What I'll bet Danny doesn't remember is the old fashioned wall phones. We had one of those (also, on a "party line") prior to moving to Greenfield. We lived near Leesburg somewhere. And I remember that we had to listen for "our ring". Ours was "two long and a short." All of the phones on the line would get all of the rings, and we had to listen for our ring to get our calls. Many times people would answer on the wrong ring and get someone else's call! LOL! Boy, that could cause trouble! Mom listened in on those calls, too. We lived on Lafayette Street the whole time I attended school in Greenfield. We never got a "private line" the entire time I lived there. Sometimes we had our phone shut off when money was tight. Missing out on her favorite form of amusement was all of the incentive my Mom really needed to make paying the phone bill, a priority! LOL!

S. A. Miller (Class of '65),


I read your article Win some-Loose some and it saddens me to see a store close. I realize it is hard to compete with chain store pricing and inventory but that's not all they offer. They have two things that a few of our locals have forgotten. A SMILE and FRIENDLY SERVICE! I would rather shop in Greenfield because I don't like to drive but I would rather drive 20 miles to see a smile and a positive attitude than to drive 3 blocks to be treated as a burden. What happened to Greenfield's friendly hometown atmosphere? When it returns the chain stores will have to compete with Greenfield.

John Countryman, 

Just read the wonderful posting concerning Sea Oats and wanted to invite those of you who have never been to North Carolina, especially our beautiful Outer Banks, to come and visit. We do have the best of both worlds here, especially where I live. The magnificent mountains are only 2 hours west, the beautiful and relaxing coast anywhere from 3.5 to 6 hours away. Placed in the middle (Piedmont) where I live are the gently rolling and sometimes steep remains of the Uwharrie Mountain range. Lakes and rivers and ponds, oh my! Please consider a visit to North Carolina if you will. I know you will like it. Will remind you of Ohio in many ways. To everyone in my hometown, Merry Christmas and a wonderful New Year! 

Danny Alexander, 

I was in the same grade as Johnny Paycheck and I was born in 1937. There should be no more than a years difference. 

Phil Post, 

Hello Everyone from the State of North Carolina to my birthplace Greenfield!  I trust everyone had a pleasant and safe Thanksgiving holiday. I was reading over the site and noticed a test titled "How Old Are You?" Well, I took the test and just as I expected, "I am older than dirt!" However, item number 11 interest me. I remember my Grandmother and Grandfather's telephone number being just 304. All we had to do was lift the receiver and ask the operator to connect us to "304 Please!" Does anyone else remember the three digit numbers or is it just us ancient ones? Have a wonderful holiday season Greenfield. 

Danny Alexander, 

In response to the question of Johnny Paycheck’s age I received these two letters from Doug Chenoweth:

I’m pretty sure that Johnny (Donnie) was born in '38. I hung around with him and his cousin Larry Cokonougher in 1959/60 after he came back to town after working with Faron Young. He was sometimes going by Donnie Young then. The last I heard he was living in West Virginia. Hope this helps.


Sorry I didn't put my name on my e-mail. I was in a sort of rush at the
My Name is Doug Chenoweth. I went by Carl when I attended McClain my Jr. year. I came to stay with my Grandmother after my Grandfather died. I lived there for a little over a year then came back to Springboro, which is just south of Dayton. I knew Donnie through his cousin and the fact my Grandfather and his were good friends. My Grandmother was not too excited about my being around him, but to me, a 17 year old small town guy, he was one great story teller. I never figured which were fact and which
were not! He was older than me but not old enough to have had that much fun! I worked at the United Department Store and later at Murray Funeral Home. Like most everyone else I hung out at Penny's a lot (which my Grandmother didn't like either) and tried to stay out of trouble. I go back to Greenfield once in a while. I still have a few relatives
there. The town always reminds me of Lake Woebegone. That's a good thing, I think.
Didn't mean to ramble on. Hope the information on "Paycheck" was useful.


Mr. Chapman:

Well I have arrived in Guam safe and sound, and as luck would have it they are in the middle of their rainy season.  So, as I'm sure you remember, it is very hot and very muggy here.  But I guess I could be in a lot worse places.  We are all geared up and ready to move out on a moments notice, so rest assured that we will do whatever it takes to make things right again. We are very motivated and I can say with pride one of the closest knit groups I have ever had the pleasure of belonging to.  So if the flag goes up and someone needs something built you can bet your boots the U.S. NAVY SEABEE's will be there. Until next time take care and keep up the great work.

BU1 (SCW) Daniel R. Jones,

Can anyone help me find my father's family? The only info I have is his first name of Jeff and that is it. Jeff passed on when I was very young from a car crash possibly with a piece of farm machinery [combine] but that is all the info I have and I'm not sure if even this is correct. The time period was between 10 and 15 years ago not even sure about that. Please help me in any way possible I need to know more.
thanks in advance.... 

Aaron Goddard, 9950 North Maple, Unit E, Hayden, Idaho 83835,

Thank you for those wonderful pictures of the old swinging bridge remains. Yes, that is the bridge that I was referring to. I just this morning confirmed that with my aunt who still resides in Greenfield. I really enjoy this site and I hope to be a regular contributor to it. I also want to purchase the History book on Greenfield.
Another item I remember well is the Dairy Queen, with it's two large ice cream cones perched on each of the front corners. Again, thank you for your wonderful response! 

Danny Alexander,

When I was a child my great grandpa lived way back somewhere around Bainbridge. We always went to the swinging bridge, it was to the right as you were going to Bainbridge. I can't remember where Humboldt is so Larry we might be talking about the same bridge. I do know I have a fear going across those bridges now!! Dane's (Dane Clyburn) scares me something awful! I do remember my mom dumped two cats around that bridge and they beat us back home and was on our porch that night when we got home. My grandma accused us of not taking them.


My name is Danny Alexander, I was born in Greenfield in 1949, delivered by Dr. Felson. My father was James E. Alexander, who's mother and father were Truman and Emma Alexander. Dad was the Drum Major at McClain and also worked at the Rand. My grandparents' owned and operated a carry-out on North St. We lived at 111 North Street, the small house on the hill directly behind the white house and carry-out.

We moved to Cincinnati when I was in the 5th grade and recently laid my mother and father to rest in Greenfield Cemetery. I have always felt a closeness and an unbreakable tie to Greenfield. I remember carnivals
actually in the streets, Skeens grocery, the old bridge spanning Paint Creek, the old Mill and my aunt Virgie and I walking the tracks to her white house on the hill across from the Mill, and much, much more than time
allows. I still have an aunt living in Greenfield in the same house and the interior is just as I remember it as a child. What a childhood I had!

I do love Greenfield and the area around it. I currently live in North Carolina. I was in Greenfield back in March while on business in Wilmington.

This is my question:

I remember a rope swinging bridge somewhere nearby, but cannot for the life of me remember where it is. Can you help? My uncle Lewis Hamilton used to take me there.

Thank you for you wonderful site! The photos help keep me tied, the stories keep me alive with imagination and all I would ask is that more photographs of the town, businesses and local be added.

May God Bless Greenfield and the USA!

Danny Alexander,

Dear Mr. Chapman,
The pictures of the ships are wonderful. My 7 year old son was fascinated and asked if we would ever see ships like that! Being that WPAFB is my back yard, he is only accustomed to the loud air planes that take off from the base. It is so hard to try to explain to a 7 year old what is going on in America, which he knows as "Land of the Free" what is going on now. He knows that the country that was behind this is "NOT LAND OF THE FREE". I have tried to explain to Brandon what is going on without crying, and tears swell up every time. He knows what hatred means and knows that it should never come about, that we treat people the way we want to be treated. He has never been raised to be prejudice against other people, nor myself was I raised that way. I have to say, this has been the worst thing I have ever had to try to explain to Brandon, which incudes hatred and prejudice, 2 things that I did not want him to even try to understand, until of course, he gets older. Since this tragedy has occurred, I hold him tighter when I see him and tell him I love him so many times, which as you know, as parents we can never do that too much to our children. I apologize for going on about this, but I just wanted you to know, you put a little light in my boys eyes.  You deserve a pat on the back and a big THANK YOU! Shelley Bonfield,  

Shelly: You might tell your son that part of "living free" is to have the right to openly take pictures like those which appeared on the website. Thanks.

Hi, Larry!

You asked if anyone had a "Green Gables" story. Well, I remember the first time I went to Columbus, it was with our Girl Scout Troop, to see "Around the World In Eighty Days."  It was playing at the RKO in Downtown Columbus. It was, I thought, so elegant! Balcony and carpet and lounges, etc. (Am I dating myself? LOL!) We were expected to "dress-up" in those days to go to the Movies! LOL! I remember that Patty Mertz had cautioned us not to be silly and gasp during the Balloon sequences! We stopped at Green Gables afterward and had what I thought was an elegant meal served to our station wagon window! Linda Taylor chided me for ordering dessert with the meal instead of waiting until after the main part. When I moved to Columbus at the age of eighteen, I had the pleasure of going for Friday night and Saturday afternoon/night "Cruising." We girls piled into a car and sat for hours with small cokes while the guys cruised by us in some really wild cars. We tried to look sophisticated with cigarettes and blue eye shadow. The restroom was in the basement, and after my first attempt at drinking (rum and coke, I think) I became deathly ill and spent an hour over the toilet basin. I got to know the paint patterns of that restroom all too well. To this day I can't stand th e smell of hard liquor or yellow/green painted walls. Sammi Miller, 

Sammi: Nor can I, for some reason, stand the smell of bourbon whiskey!!!


Just wanted to drop you a note and tell you what a wonderful job you are doing with the Greenfield articles. I read it every weekday morning to see what is new. Should have my ham shack back up and running this winter. Am in the process of installing a tower and beam. Are you still active?


Jim Wise, N8PHN,

NOTE: Hi Jim, I still get on 75 meters occasionally and talk to some old 3898 friends. I have an 85' tower with a 6-element tri-band Mosley but never work DX anymore. Thanks for the input. 73 OM


Green Gables Drive-In sat on the y of the 3c hwy and Mound street. McDonalds is there now. When I was in the 8th and 9th grade I lived on Central Ave which ran left of the Gables. I was there quite a few times. I enjoy your site so much!

Nola Addy Hutchinson,                          

Dear Larry: 

I just read the letter from Ella Anderson Williams re. tipperaries at Pearce's Restaurant. I remember the Anderson family but....her father, Fred Anderson, the baker, was not the originator of the tipperarie, although he did, as she said, bake them and sell them at our restaurant. 

The originator of the tipperarie was a German baker named Hans Bowen, who lived in Greenfield. His wife, Gladys, may still be around for all I know.  

From what my dad, Jim Pearce, has told me, Hans got his start in the bakery business at Pennington's in Washington C.H. and then went to work for the Gadbury's in Greenfield, who owned the restaurant which would one day change hands and become Pearce's Restaurant. 

My grandparents, Jacob and Elizabeth Pearce, bought the restaurant from Gadbury's in 1945. My dad distinctly remembers this. He was home on leave (from the Air Force) at that time. Hans Bowen was the baker at that time and he continued to bake for the Pearce's. 

People laugh when I tell them that I never ate a tipperarie, as if I committed a capital offense by not doing so. I don't have much of a sweet tooth, I guess, or perhaps it was because I had complete access to Hans' and Mr. Anderson's delicacies so they didn't seem like such a temptation to me. 

Anyway, I just wanted to set the record straight. The tipperaries were being made prior to Mr. Anderson's arrival at Pearce's Restaurant.  

My grandpa, Jake, would get such a kick out of people reminiscing about the restaurant on-line. Wow! And...the email about having the urge to ride a bike on the curved counter.....I cracked up when I read that. Oh, the stories I could tell about Pearce's Restaurant. Such memories! And...such good food, courtesy of my grandmother, Libby, who was a baker and cook extraordinaire. I try to imitate her spaghetti, which didn't taste Italian at all, and their iced tea but I don't have the magic touch. It must not be hereditary although I do have one cousin, Julie McCray, who has turned out to be a good cook. 

One of my cousins and I have the recipe for the tipperarie filling. (It's under lock and key. Just joking!) Now...if we can just figure out how to make the donut part maybe we'll go into business. We'll open a shop with a long, curving counter and we'll even let Mr.Countryman have a shot at riding his bike on the counter just to see if it can be done.   

Cindi Pearce,


The pastries at Pearce's were great but what about the curved countertop? Be truthful, did you ever have a desire to ride a bike the full length of the countertop? Imagine the look on Jake's face if someone did. I really enjoy your web-site. Keep up the good work.

John Countryman, 

REPLY: Truthfully John, my thoughts never got beyond the Coney dogs and the pastries!!!

If memory serves me correctly, Slagle Auto Parts was located on North Washington St. where the North End Mini Mart is now. After that, I believe, they became Slagle & Kirk Auto Parts and then Kirk Auto Parts who built the building at the west end of Jefferson St. next to the car wash, which is now a medical center. Now, does anyone remember Slagle's Lumber Yard that was on South Fifth St. by the railroad tracks?

Mike Caplinger

     My name is Ella Williams, my maiden name was Anderson. I logged on to look at the history of Greenfield, just for the fun of it. What to my surprise I see someone that remembers Pearce's Restaurant and the tipperaries. I filled those tipperaries. Is there anyone out there that remembers Fred Anderson. He owned the bakery part in the back of Pearce's.  He rented the room back there. The year was 1964. We made the donuts, cookies, cinnamon buns. The bun Pearce's sold hamburgers on and the hotdog bun. Many the morning I helped my dad make donuts and iced jelly donuts. I got married Dec.18, 1966 . My dad made my wedding cake in that kitchen . I helped him for a year longer until I started my family. I agree with you there isn't as good cream filling around that touches it. My  Dad passed away Feb. 8 1982 .We really miss him. I'm glad I logged on tonight it brought back good thoughts. Aug.10 2001  I would like to hear from anyone that remembers when we had it at that time.

I can't believe someone else dreams of the taste of the tipperaries from Pearce's restaurant. My Mother and I have often talked about how we would love to have a bag of these delicious pastries again. Like you say we have never found any thing that comes close to that wonderful taste. Have often wondered if there was someone there that remembered  how they were made and let us in on the secret. The chili at Pearce's was also another favorite. If there is anyone out there that knows and wants to let us in on the secret. I'm sure a lot of folks would love to know. Keep up the good work, really enjoy checking out the news in Greenfield.

Ruth Jackson, Class of 1960,

I would like to put in my 2 cents concerning the Water Tower.  It would seem to me, that in order to compensate for the prevailing winds that come mostly from the West, that the tower would be placed at a slight angle to make up for this.  I do not know if this is true in this case, but it makes for a good conversation.  Thanks for the great job on this site and have a great day.

BU1 Daniel Jones,

Please note: My Blazer that I had for sale has sold. Thank you very much for your service. 

Ted Watkins


I am trying to find Mr. Harry Rich Stultz of Greenfield Ohio.  acquired a letter he wrote some 50 years ago and would like to pass it onto him or his descendents. Any suggestions you might have of how I could find contact information for him would be appreciated.  I had hoped the newspaper would have an obituary search by name as ours does here in Canton Ohio, in hope I could get a descendent name. Thank You

Linda Ward, Canton Ohio.  7/10/2001

Mr. Chapman,

Just wanted to let you know again that you are doing a great job.  I am coming up on the end of my 12 month tour here in beautiful Diego Garcia and I wanted to send you 2 more pictures.  I will be returning to the states soon, for a very short period, then I am heading off to another beautiful island, Guam.  I enjoyed your article about your Naval service, and although I am a Seabee, I am still a fellow Sailor.  Take care and thank you for keeping me up to date on the happenings around Home.

BU1 Daniel Jones

I have lived in this town for the past 14 yrs and come to realize that the majority of the people in this town are decent working people. It's a small town and like all small towns across this country you have good and bad. I've read some letters in the feedback columns and yes we need road and alley repair. We need more industrial business brought in. But I would say the over all view its doing ok for a small town. Being the only sign painter in this town I have no complaints. I live beside our mayor and he's a good man. just a few thoughts thank you.    Andy Hurley... 5/28/2001

I was born and raised in Greenfield.  Unfortunately, I left in 1973 to enter the U.S. Air Force.  It's hard to believe that I've been gone nearly 30 years.  My entire family still lives in Greenfield.  I enjoy your web site
very much and I visit it each day.  I do have one request.  Would it be possible to put names on the pictures that you have in the Scrapbook?  I try real hard to remember names and faces of the folks from my early Greenfield days but I'm getting old, you know?  My mom Pat always tells me that I "should" remember everyone from my childhood.  I thank you for the time you spend providing folks like myself with news of my favorite town, Greenfield. Please keep up the terrific work.  BTW, I'm not even sure what your name is.
I didn't see it on the web page!!!  5/14/2001

Randy M. Sagar

NOTE: The difficulty of remembering names is exactly why I don't have names listed with people's faces in the scrapbook section. I can barely remember my own.... Thanks and keep checking in!  Larry Chapman


Hello!  I am Martie Wood, Ron's wife. A post card for McClain alumni came to my house for Betsy. I took the opportunity to write back and join.  Connie Clyburn emailed me and told me about your web site. Just checked it out. VERY nice! Like getting the Greenfield News! I have a business question. When Ron was ill it came to me to make a Caregivers Journal using all the scriptures, etc. that were speaking to me and helping me through that wilderness journey. Then thru the next 7 years after Ron's homegoing, I worked on putting the Journal into my computer. Three years ago I had it self published. Recently I have been setting up a web site. Check it out. 

Blessings             Martie

Dear Larry, Received your note of thanks for using the Homecoming and Greenfield sites, but think the thanks should go to you for the great job you have done so that our native sons and friends can come together on the internet and stay connected. It's amazing to me how far-flung the citizens of our fair town have become; my wife, Pearle and I seem to encounter them in unexpected places. We just returned from a Florida trip, and while visiting our son in Melbourne, we met two folk from Greenfield: Willow Edgington'53,and Roger Cannon who would have been in the class of'72 if he had remained in school. Neither were aware of the Greenfield site and were eager to visit.------The thought occurred to me that there may be some interest in a news clipboard at the end of the biography section? current items such as promotions, marriages, births deaths, etc., that would be displayed for a short period, maybe a week and then withdrawn. Such a service would have several benefits all around perhaps. Keep up the good Work. I'm sure that several thousand enjoy the fruits of your labor. they don't always tell you Best wishes, John Roberts. 3/30/2001

Dear Larry,
I grew up near Rainsboro. Barrett's Mill - 7 Caves road to be exact. My grandparents at one time owned and worked at Barrett's mill. I know the covered bridge and mill are torn down now, but would love seeing some pictures of the area if you are out on one of your picture taking expeditions...  I certainly would appreciate seeing it again. Its such a shame that vandals took it upon themselves to destroy such an important part of Highland County History. Thanks so much for a lot of the pictures I view
over and over. Marge Dennis, Altoona, PA  2/15/2001

Good morning! I was looking for information on Ivy and Twigs so I could send flowers to my mother (Ruthanne Trutner) for Valentine's Day.  Since I live in Washington State, I sometimes call Neil to make a special delivery out to the farm and so he and mother can catch up on the news. Of course, I am trying to contact Neil at the last minute as I sometimes do.  was trying to find a web site for Ivy and Twigs as the phone has been busy (with other late Valentine Day Givers) and found this site instead. Congratulations on a fun and informative site. Next time you see Neil, tell him how much his loyal Washington State customers would like to see a website and if the class of 71 is planning a reunion, I'll be sure to look for it here. Sincerely, Ann (Trutner) Anderst, Snohomish, WA  2/15/2001


I came to the Greenfield web site to look for historical info.  I've enjoyed looking through your site but am disappointed that there is not a clearer way to get the the historical society info and that there is no history of Greenfield available on the web site ( that I could find).  Your site does a good job of telling who sells what but doesn't really tell who you are.  My ancestors were McElroys who settled in Greenfield in the early 1800's. They had come from PA.  I had hoped I could get a little flavor for the early history of Greenfield on your web site.  Would be nice also to have photos of historic buildings on the site.  Who were the people who put Greenfield on the map?  Where were they from?  Why did they settle in Greenfield?  When did they begin arriving?  I was looking at the web site for Ottumwa, Iowa yesterday.  I thought that Ottumwa did a good job of presenting its early history. You might take a look at that site. I don't mean to be critical.  I enjoyed visiting your site and hope that you will build a component of your web site that will enable you to share your
history with others. Best wishes, John Procter, Dedham, MA 2/12/2001

Hello, Just had to put in my two cents. Being an, from the class of 1956, this is a wonderful way to keep in touch. I wish more people from my class would get involved too. How'bout it,,, let's all get on the wagon and send a message, with your E-mail address.  Mine being Thanks. 

Gloria Lee-Ockerman (Ed note: I believe Gloria is referring to the Greenfield Homecoming Page.) 1/30/2001

Letters are in the order in which we received them.

Since I found the Greenfield Website, I check it nearly everyday.  Its great reading what others from our area have accomplished with their lives, and how their lives have changed over the years.  I especially like the links...  I was not aware that the Paint creek project had occurred.  I am definitely taking a trip home soon to see the area.  Keep up the good work, Larry. 

Marge Dennis, Altoona, PA, (1/7/2001)

I just wanted to update my e-mail address, as I have a computer at home now. 
My e-mail address at home is  I can still be reached at the other address, but I don't know for how long as I am looking towards retiring from my job soon. God Bless, the site is wonderful!  Keep up the good work!

Joyce Dennis, (12/29/2000)


Congratulations for providing a great 'e'newspaper. I think there is more in it than the combo Greenfield/Hillsboro paper that appears to satisfy neither community. I will continue to click on despite your editorial about "Whining Republicans".

Steve Wylie, MHS 69, (11/26/2000)

The picture of 'The Culbert' reminds me that my Dad, a market gardener, had a garden in the acreage adjoining the culvert in 1938.  Is there someone still around who might remember raiding the melon patch.

George E. Cannon, (11/24/2000)

I just wanted to take a couple of minutes to wish the Greenfield community a Happy Thanksgiving!  It's this time of year that we're obligated to look at what we have and what we're blessed with. I wish to express my sincere and heartfelt thanks to the folks at the First Baptist Church and all of Greenfield for the support they've given my family over the past few months.  They are a true blessing!

Dale C. Kennedy, MSgt
NCOIC, Network Operations
DSN 872-5726 (11/21/2000)

My name is Eric Devroye, My wife's name is Suzanne Martin.  Her father Lawrence Allen Martin was estranged from his family as a young man.  He had a brother Richard and parents Henry and Elsie Martin who were farmers in Greenfield, Ohio in the 50's or earlier.  Lawrence Martin was born in August of 1940 I believe maybe 39.  I imagine if Henry and Elsie are still alive they are in there upper 80's - 90's.  If you know of anyone who could possibly help me, we are trying to research our family tree and possibly make contact with Suzanne's Grandparents, if alive.  At the least, we would like to send a few pictures to them.  Suzanne never knew why her father and his family parted ways and it doesn't matter.  She just wants to know who she is, in a way.  Even if there is no one that she ever meets or contacts we would like to know some names so that we can research our family history into the 19th century and earlier. Thank you,
Eric, , 11/18/2000

My name is Marilyn Riley-Vogelgesang of the McClain class of 1954.  I would
like to complain about your obituary page.  What is the criteria for having
it listed on the net? 

I got word that an old class mate of mine (Allan Carey) had died and have
watched in vain for it to appear on the Greenfield web site.  (There have
also been others who didn't show up, but who's obit.'s had appeared in the

Please print all of the obituaries as they appear so that those of us who
live far away can keep track of who has passed away.

thank you,

E-Mail address -

RESPONSE: I don't have the time to offer all the news, including obits. If you're interested in something closer to the daily news try .

I remember the alleys of Greenfield quite well--you'll remember that  my Dad was the man that took care of Greenfield's refuse for many years, so I've spent a lot of time in those alleys. 

Question--what are we doing with the folks who are incarcerated in the local jail?  Seems to me they could be used to clean up the mess....then again, maybe I've been in the south too long and the southern tradition of the "chain gang" has influenced me.  Seriously, while it may be the owner's responsibility to clean up around their facility, I'm not sure how you can hold them accountable for their patron's actions once they leave the premises.

As a note of interest--the High School that my boys attend here in Florida has one of the best marching bands I've seen in a long time!  They've been invited to participate in the Thanksgiving Parade in Chicago--coincidently, they're called the "Big Red Machine"!  How's that for an Ohio tie in!! 

Dale C. Kennedy, MSgt
NCOIC, Network Operations
DSN 872-6718
Page: 885-1560,

Heard some folks talking about your web page the other tonight. Since it had been a long time since I visited it, I decided to take a look. Fantastic!  Kind of made me envious that someone in Hillsboro or the Chamber hasn't taken the time and effort to make such a web presence.  Enjoyed the history of the C. S. Bell Company and glad to see something about it on the web.  When I was president of the Chamber of Commerce, we constantly received mail from people, schools, and churches who purchased the bells at auctions or discovered them during historic research of their buildings and wanted to know about the history of the company.  Until she died a few years back, with the proper information from the inside of the bell, a long-time employee could tell the date the bell was cast and the name of the foreman who poured it.  A suggestion would be to make a note that the company no longer exists in Hillsboro.  Again, a great site.  It does Greenfield proud.

John Levo, 
Hillsboro, OH, (10/19/2000)

Let me say that this site is the best thing that could have happened to Greenfield.  Coming into the 21st century was a vast improvement. I am currently in the Navy stationed on a remote island in the middle of the Indian Ocean, approx. 7 degrees south of the equator. I check the site everyday to keep in touch with the hometown. Great job by all responsible. Keep up the good work. I am attaching a photo of one of the best sunsets in the world please feel free to pass it along.
 Daniel R. Jones, BU1 (SCW),

I thought I would send a picture of the island where the beautiful sunsets came from. Hope you enjoy. (Note: Daniel is currently stationed on the Indian Ocean island of Diego Garcia. Though small, it is a major American military base in the region.)

 Jones Daniel R. BU1 SCW,

Looks like city fathers doing great job downtown. Took a tour of alleys in Greenfield Monday. I am thoroughly shocked and ashamed of our town situation. Trash and street repair is needed badly. Our elected officials need to take cruise and open eyes. Thanks for being American. 

James L. Trefz  10/10/2000

Hey Larry, I enjoyed the sunset pictures you have on the site but this one I feel needs to be seen too. Paul Preston (Pheanis) sent it to me along with the comments included in this message.

"This awesome picture was taken in Bitteroot National Forest in Montana on August 6, 2000. The photographer, John McColgan, is a fire behavior analyst from Fairbanks, Alaska. He took the picture with a digital camera. Because he was working at the time he took the picture he cannot profit from it; however, we feel the picture is a once-in-a-lifetime shot and should be shared."

Paul (Bo) & Pat Narcross, 

I'm stationed at Eglin AFB in Florida.  I also wanted to pass along my thanks for posting the pictures of the Class of '80 reunion on the web site. I didn't get a chance to attend with my wife because it conflicted with the start of school down here--so it was nice to see the folks who made it in.

Dale C. Kennedy, MSgt
NCOIC, Network Operations

I often check in on the Greenfield website to see what's going on in my old
hometown. I don't get back often--and unfortunately when I do it's usually
not for just a visit. I love the comments about the pool room! I wasn't exactly "encouraged" to go there by my parents--but as we all know sometimes parent's wishes aren't exactly adhered to. The benefit of spending that much time in there came
when I was stationed in Korea--a lot of free drinks were won at the pool

Dale C. Kennedy, MSgt
NCOIC, Network Operations

Have you had your pat on the back today?  I just wanted to tell you again what a great job you continue to do with the Greenfield web site.  I visit it weekly and really enjoy the expanded content - it just keeps getting better and better! From your web site we know when there is a new store or restaurant to visit when we come "home", and we have hope that soon our cell phones will work in Greenfield. Thanks for all your effort - it really is appreciated by us former Greenfielders!

Sally Turner Kennedy
Mentor Ohio (near Cleveland)
McClain Class of 1975